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valgaze 1 days ago [-]
Years ago Experian hit me with a sneaky fee for some credit-monitoring service I’d apparently been auto-enrolled in after checking my score. It was a substantial amount of money at the time. When I complained & asked for a refund for this auto-enroll service, Experian immediately offered me a discounted rate.
I filed a complaint with the CFPB. I have no idea what happened behind the scenes, but Experian backed down and refunded every penny.
I’m not an expert in financial regulation but that was the first time in a while where I felt like a federal agency was actually protecting ordinary people rather than hassling them.
Over past couple years the CFPB’s leadership seems packed with hyperpartisan apparatchiks intent on dismantling the very agency they’re in theory going to run.
This debanking matter may well fall within the CFPB’s purview. But the agency today seeing today bears little resemblance to the muscular consumer watchdog it was created to be.
Acting Director Mark Paoletta strikes me as precisely the kind of Washington operator lawyer you’d want nowhere near an agency whose entire purpose is to protect consumers from powerful financial institutions.
iugtmkbdfil834 1 days ago [-]
CFPB is interesting. Banks largely hate it and this administration had a major input in defanging it, which makes this action more interesting. FWIW, while rank and file employees effectively enforcing BSA laws are broadly tend to be somewhat neutral ( and you do want disinterested parties ), I agree with your hesitation on the current state of federal agencies.
adjejmxbdjdn 21 hours ago [-]
The banks will start subscribing to the Truth social early news functionality and all these problems will disappear.
The current issues they’re worried about being hit by the law once the administration changes so they’ve stayed far away from the Truth Social stuff. This is likely just a little push to get them over the hump.
iamnothere 1 days ago [-]
CFPB has been decent, and I’m glad they are still doing some work. My understanding is that their scope has been reduced, and it looks like the new focus is on things that are still legitimate problems but which are somehow more “right-coded” (like debanking). What I wouldn’t give for a truly nonpartisan agency that tackles issues across the board.
Geeek 1 days ago [-]
I mean, that's what old CFPB was.
iamnothere 1 days ago [-]
They ignored the debanking issue for a long time, likely because it was somehow framed as a partisan issue, despite it affecting people across the political landscape. The issue falls squarely within their mandate, so it’s ridiculous that it took so long to address it.
jordanb 19 hours ago [-]
They did not "ignore debanking." CFPB was responsible for investigating violations of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act, which it did vigorously until its rules were rewritten in 2026 to essentially gut the law by agency rulemaking edict.
The whining about "debanking" was in reference to crypto companies that were being tied to illegal transactions, and Jan 6 insurrectionists.
As is typical for this administration, the hard day-in-day-out work of the CFPB has been gutted so regular Americans no longer have protection against predatory financial firms, and instead the agency is being used for a witch hunt against people who were following the actual laws of this country in ways that hurt this president or his friends
iamnothere 7 hours ago [-]
Their mandate includes protecting the consumer from “unfair, deceptive, or abusive acts or practices” and ensuring that markets for consumer financial products are fair, transparent, and competitive. It’s not much of a stretch to say that suddenly and opaquely depriving people of their bank accounts, without any recourse, qualifies as a violation.
> The whining about "debanking" was in reference to crypto companies that were being tied to illegal transactions, and Jan 6 insurrectionists.
And Only Fans content creators, and gun shop owners, and payday loan vendors, and ordinary people who were paid in crypto, and oil and gas companies, and tobacco/vape sellers, and right-wing political organizations, and LGBTQ+ and reproductive rights organizations, and and and. Your attempt to reinforce this as a partisan issue is denied.
Given the importance of banking in this society, it should be regulated as public infrastructure, which comes with rules around transparency and fairness.
jordanb 5 hours ago [-]
We'll see who Trump's CFPB actually stands up for. My guess is that it's not going to be "ordinary people payed in crypto" and entirely Jan 6ers, crypto scammers and criminals who paid the president bribes.
This is a good bet especially because his CFPB has already made an administrative rule change indicating that they will not be enforcing the ECOA anymore.
iamnothere 5 hours ago [-]
Now that’s actually a fair point, as long as you don’t pretend that debanking is completely legitimate and only affects the “bad guys” (who of course must deserve it).
IMHO debanking should never happen without a court order. If it needs to happen under a temporarily sealed docket, for financial privacy reasons, fine.
jordanb 4 hours ago [-]
Again "debanking" describes a lot of the ECOA violations the CFPB was previously investigating.
iamnothere 3 hours ago [-]
ECOA doesn’t protect people based on profession, political engagement, or source of funds, AFAIK, just the typical protected categories (race/gender/age/etc).
jordanb 3 hours ago [-]
Right so instead of enforcing the ECOA the CFPB will be used by this gangster president to go after institutions that wouldn't do business with his criminal associates
Yet another example if the collapsing rule of law in the American klepostate
iamnothere 2 hours ago [-]
The debanking apparatus should not exist outside of a court order. Hopefully this forces Congress to do something about it.
travoc 1 days ago [-]
CFPB is inherently political, like all government agencies. Of course it ignored the debanking issue. CFPB was just serving its current masters.
halJordan 23 hours ago [-]
Alright, then you're replying to the wrong comment.
sieabahlpark 1 days ago [-]
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miohtama 24 hours ago [-]
In this blog post, Patrick McKenzie (ex Stripe) details with accuracy how mostly left leaning organisations weaponised banking and website terms of services to “cancel” the business necessities for people and organisations they did not like:
There was a maga talking point about how "woke" banks were shutting down maga affiliated accounts and this whole thing is nothing but red meat for their voters
jauntywundrkind 20 hours ago [-]
And insurance that no matter how many crimes and how disgusting and slimy the swamp creature is, no matter how ill gotten the gains: if it doesn't break a clear law the bank has no say. You must take every grifter every swindler that comes by. If they haven't hit the specific legal tripwire to be shown the door, they get to use your bank.
0xy 1 days ago [-]
That quote is not at all what they said, it appears to have been invented out of thin air by PBS.
Capital One said the closures were a result of review "in accordance with bank policies and regulatory guidance". They did not state they were concerned about money laundering.
AML teams at banks are not limited to money laundering investigations, which PBS would've known if they did even the smallest amount of journalism.
In fact, Capital One explicitly stated they have never revealed the reason behind the closure -- mentioned in the same article.
This is significant because according to internal Capital One documents, along with 8 other banks, they explicitly have policies that deny banking access on the basis of lists that target lawful banking for political reasons. [1]
Another reason this report is garbage is that Capital One would've been obligated to file Suspicious Activity Reports if they suspected money laundering, which would've appeared in the FinCEN leaks. The Trump Organization and no Trump-affiliated were found in them. [2] The leaks included DB's SARs, who was a known Trump-affiliated bank.
Perhaps I should have linked to the Reuters version instead; it was covered widely:
"Capital One has never accused the Trump Organization of illegal money laundering. But Friday's filing argues that "documents and Plaintiffs’ own allegations make clear that Capital One closed Plaintiffs’ accounts for anti-money laundering (“AML”) reasons"
I filed a complaint with the CFPB. I have no idea what happened behind the scenes, but Experian backed down and refunded every penny.
I’m not an expert in financial regulation but that was the first time in a while where I felt like a federal agency was actually protecting ordinary people rather than hassling them.
Over past couple years the CFPB’s leadership seems packed with hyperpartisan apparatchiks intent on dismantling the very agency they’re in theory going to run.
This debanking matter may well fall within the CFPB’s purview. But the agency today seeing today bears little resemblance to the muscular consumer watchdog it was created to be.
Acting Director Mark Paoletta strikes me as precisely the kind of Washington operator lawyer you’d want nowhere near an agency whose entire purpose is to protect consumers from powerful financial institutions.
The current issues they’re worried about being hit by the law once the administration changes so they’ve stayed far away from the Truth Social stuff. This is likely just a little push to get them over the hump.
The whining about "debanking" was in reference to crypto companies that were being tied to illegal transactions, and Jan 6 insurrectionists.
As is typical for this administration, the hard day-in-day-out work of the CFPB has been gutted so regular Americans no longer have protection against predatory financial firms, and instead the agency is being used for a witch hunt against people who were following the actual laws of this country in ways that hurt this president or his friends
> The whining about "debanking" was in reference to crypto companies that were being tied to illegal transactions, and Jan 6 insurrectionists.
And Only Fans content creators, and gun shop owners, and payday loan vendors, and ordinary people who were paid in crypto, and oil and gas companies, and tobacco/vape sellers, and right-wing political organizations, and LGBTQ+ and reproductive rights organizations, and and and. Your attempt to reinforce this as a partisan issue is denied.
Given the importance of banking in this society, it should be regulated as public infrastructure, which comes with rules around transparency and fairness.
This is a good bet especially because his CFPB has already made an administrative rule change indicating that they will not be enforcing the ECOA anymore.
IMHO debanking should never happen without a court order. If it needs to happen under a temporarily sealed docket, for financial privacy reasons, fine.
Yet another example if the collapsing rule of law in the American klepostate
https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/nonprofit-indicted-ba...
Now the same tactics have been used to cancel the cancellers:
https://www.cato.org/blog/judge-denies-motion-toss-splc-indi...
This is a dangerous example what happens when someone brings non court judgement to the IT.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/oct/19/the-canary-lef...
from https://www.occ.gov/news-issuances/news-releases/2026/nr-occ...
"Trump bank accounts were closed due to concerns over possible money laundering, Capital One says"
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-bank-accounts-we...
Capital One said the closures were a result of review "in accordance with bank policies and regulatory guidance". They did not state they were concerned about money laundering.
AML teams at banks are not limited to money laundering investigations, which PBS would've known if they did even the smallest amount of journalism.
In fact, Capital One explicitly stated they have never revealed the reason behind the closure -- mentioned in the same article.
This is significant because according to internal Capital One documents, along with 8 other banks, they explicitly have policies that deny banking access on the basis of lists that target lawful banking for political reasons. [1]
Another reason this report is garbage is that Capital One would've been obligated to file Suspicious Activity Reports if they suspected money laundering, which would've appeared in the FinCEN leaks. The Trump Organization and no Trump-affiliated were found in them. [2] The leaks included DB's SARs, who was a known Trump-affiliated bank.
[1] https://www.occ.gov/news-issuances/news-releases/2026/nr-occ...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinCEN_Files
"Capital One has never accused the Trump Organization of illegal money laundering. But Friday's filing argues that "documents and Plaintiffs’ own allegations make clear that Capital One closed Plaintiffs’ accounts for anti-money laundering (“AML”) reasons"
from
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/capital-one-says-it...
Other points:
* Capital One says anti-money laundering review prompted closure of more than 300 Trump-affiliated accounts
* Trump Organization and Eric Trump sued in March 2025, alleging political debanking
Notice "political debanking" :)
Reuters made the same rudimentary error. Capital One never said that in any filing. They said the opposite, that they have never revealed ANY reason.
You can read the filings yourself, or review the notable lack of SARs in the FinCEN leaks.
Capital One is obligated to file SARs in the event of money laundering. They did not do so.